That is already happening, to an extent. The economy is certainly helping as owners look at the time and money it costs to maintain those back tees that very few people are using. I am a big believer that shorter courses can be just as much, if not more, fun than the long brutes.
So now we face the challenge of proving that shorter is better. The other would be the local course down the street. Yes and no. The higher-end public courses were simply filling a niche in the market where there was tremendous demand at that time. The niche was filled to the point of overflow and now we are seeing what happens with that imbalance. How do the best-of-the-best stack up in all design eras?
From a pure architectural standpoint, there are a lower percentage of standout courses from this era. How are you using technology to assist in course development and renovation? The tools that are available to assist us in design and communication today are fantastic. Pen and pencil will always have their place in my office, but the digital tools like CAD and Photoshop are too valuable to ignore.
What specific things in your design work make courses more affordable? Minimize earthwork, maximize surface drainage and limit the hand labor required to construct features. Typically, if hand labor is required to build a feature, hand labor will be required to maintain it, thus, driving up both the initial construction costs and the long-term maintenance costs.
What in your design work makes courses more environmentally-sustainable? Environmental sustainability follows closely with reduced costs.
It seems like every time we, as an industry, move to meet the latest challenge, the bar is raised a notch or two — not that this is a bad thing — as there will always be things that we could or should do to make our projects better environmentally. What course would you direct a golfer to if he wanted to see the best expression of your philosophy? The Broadlands, in Broomfield, Colo. Antler Creek, in Falcon, Colo. For new construction, probably Devils Thumb. In your work, I see those values and some interesting new directions.
Talk about how you have evolved. Being practical, or financially responsible, is a learned behavior that I will never lose. My design philosophy has always been to expand on what my dad worked so hard to build without giving up the core values of responsible golf course architecture.
Anything that gets people outside with golf equipment in their hands should have a role in the future of golf. Are you dabbling in the overseas market? Dabbling would be too strong of a word. We would certainly not turn down a real project overseas, but we are also not actively chasing work outside of North America. What should international clients learn from American golf course architects? Quality design and construction provide the best value over the long-term life cycle of a golf course.
OK, now for the lightning round — design on plans or in the field? I really enjoy the field work, but on some sites and projects it is essential to have a great set of plans to work from. Traditional design or new ideas? Again, both! Big greens or small? Variety is always the goal.
If I owned my own course, I would prefer bigger greens with a bit more contour. Square tees or round? Lacy edged bunkers — fad or trend? Both, it depends on the site. On park-style courses, intricate lacy edges would be more of a fad. Wide fairway or narrow? Anywhere from 80 feet to feet depending on the site and design. Keeping turfgrass healthy is only part of the battle — it has to look good, too.
Whether caring for a private club or a public course, it has to be aesthetically pleasing to many parties. After all, golf is a great escape, and part of that escape is the illusion of stepping into an impossible wonderland. So how to achieve both healthy turfgrass and a course by which an artist would be inspired? On a scale of one to 10, how concerned are most superintendents about aesthetics?
Thanks for that math. Makes sense to me now. These maths of a 5 ball every 6 minutes assume each person is a golfer capable of hitting the ball where they want to, be out of range of the next group, run to their balls.. I find it unbelievable that you can even think theses could be 18 hole rounds x , in one year. I accept , could be done. Hawaii will average hours of playtime, but you need to deduct 3 hours, because the last time needs 3 hours to complete.
A 2 ball is 6 minutes, a 3 ball is 7 minutes , a 4 ball is 8 minutes When I arrived at 10 AM tee time during one summer, they were already 45 minutes behind!!! Fossil Trace in Golden, CO has 10 minute interval tee times, and that seems to work well, unless of course you got a slow player in front somewhere.
But generally, it flows at a decent pace except peak hours during weekends where you have every beginners it seems out on the course. Even 9 minute tee time intervals can get slow if you have a slow player AND the "marshall" doesn't do anything about it. Key in most cases seems to be marshall that is unwilling or afraid to tell slower groups to pickup.
Funny enough, I actually played a course today with 7 minute tee times. I think it was because it was middle of the week at 10 am and everyone on the course were regulars so they moved along quite well. All but 2 that I saw were seniors, getting it done at a brisk pace, I was impressed.
That's one of the many things I don't miss about Southern California. We teed off at today on my home course and never saw another golfer until we headed to the 18th tee and crossed paths with a twosome on the 9th green. The pro shop manager said they were the only two left on the course. That may or may not have had to do with the fact that it was 96F when we teed off and F in the late afternoon.
Unlike many places where summer is the prime season, summer is the least crowded season for golf here. As to the OP, my home course has 12 minute tee times and it still gets backed up during prime season.
We're usually right on time or maybe even a bit early off the tees, but it slows down once you're out on the course. A lot of our snowbirds are senior citizens, and a lot of them aren't very fast golfers besides the fact that most of them have apparently never heard of raking a bunker or fixing a ball mark, but that's another subject! It's a semi-private course and the members don't hesitate to let the pro shop know if somebody is dragging their feet - and a marshal will usually be sent out immediately to fix the situation, so it doesn't usually get too bad.
We won't even go near it during snowbird season about November - April. It's a county-owned course and has the lowest green fees in the area, so it's difficult to get a tee time during those months even if you don't have anything better to do than sit around and wait for the next six hours.
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Being an older 4-some, we have some holes that seem to take longer and would cause delay in golfers behind us, but with the longer interval that has not been an issue. Hope it stays.
The case for wider tee time intervals Big-city municipal systems are reporting more rounds played despite new and minute spacing in place for social distancing. So why go back? Brandon Tucker June 9, Pace of play was great. Tee boxes were mostly level. Fairways were lush and green. This course looks like a country club right now. The greens were medium speed but received shots very well. I highly recommend playing here right now. Watch: City of L. City of Los Angeles' 12 municipal golf courses experiencing huge gains in play in Have you noticed a change in the spacing of tee times and the overall experience at your home course?
Let us know in the comments below! Golf 2. Could these changes make the game more appealing? From booking a tee time to the post-round departure, the coronavirus pandemic is causing golf course operators to be more efficient and creative.
Some of these innovations may be here to stay. By Tim Gavrich. From retail sales to custom fitting to junior programming, the golf industry's different corners will need to think a little more creatively going forward. Brandon Tucker. Brandon Tucker is the Sr. To date, his golf travels have taken him to over two dozen countries and nearly golf courses worldwide.
While he's played some of the most prestigious courses in the world, Tucker's favorite way to play the game is on a great muni in under three hours. Dale Commented on June 14, PM. Report Share. Frank Commented on June 13, PM. Jerry W.
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